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Bright Green Fireball Blazes Across NJ, PA Skies Bright Green Fireball Blazes Across NJ, PA Skies
Bright Green Fireball Blazes Across NJ, PA Skies An earthquake, a total solar eclipse and now a fireball. What a week for weather in the Northeast. Dozens of residents across the region reported seeing a bright green fireball blaze across the sky on before dawn on Wednesday, April 10. View this post on Instagram A post shared by Daily Voice NJ (@dailyvoicenewjersey) Linda Price-Heine captured a fireball in the sky Wednesday, April 10. Daily Voice Linda Price-Heine got a text from her neighbor, Joan Piney, in Wall Township this morning telling her to check her camera, she said…
Florida Man Who Killed Infant, Young Mom Arrested In Routine NJ Traffic Stop: Cops Florida Man Who Killed Infant, Young Mom Arrested In Routine NJ Traffic Stop: Cops
Florida Man Who Killed Infant, Young Mom Arrested In Routine NJ Traffic Stop: Cops It took almost three years, but with an assist from police in Linden, officers in Florida finally got their man. Doujon Duwayne Griffiths, 23, who had been wanted in Orange County, Florida since September 2021 for killing 20-year-old Massania Malcom and leaving her 1-year-old daughter to die in a hot car, was recently arrested in Linden following a traffic stop, the Orange County Sheriff's Office in Central Florida said. During the traffic stop, Linden police discovered Griffiths had an outstanding warrant out for first degree murder, the Orange County Sheriff's Office said. He will be extr…
30 Burgers Opens Second Jersey Shore Location 30 Burgers Opens Second Jersey Shore Location
30 Burgers Opens Second Jersey Shore Location A New Jersey chain that prides itself on using fresh Angus beef for innovative burgers is opening up its second restaurant on the Jersey Shore. 30 Burgers opened up its newest location in late January in Freehold Township. The restaurant on Village Center Drive in the Raintree Towne Center shopping plaza held a grand opening on Thursday, Feb. 1. This is the 11th location for 30 Burgers, according to its website. All restaurants are in the Garden State and Freehold joins the location in Red Bank as the second restaurant in Monmouth County. View this post on Instagram …
NJ Volunteer Firefighter Thrown 100 Feet In Refinery Explosion Sees Wave Of Support NJ Volunteer Firefighter Thrown 100 Feet In Refinery Explosion Sees Wave Of Support
NJ Volunteer Firefighter Thrown 100 Feet In Refinery Explosion Sees Wave Of Support An Atlantic County volunteer fire department is asking for help after its assistant fire chief was severely injured in an oil refinery explosion. The Milmay Volunteer Fire Company said it happened while Michael Black was battling a fire at his career firefighting job at the Phillips 66 refinery in Linden. "Mike is okay but has a road of recovery ahead," the fire company posted on Facebook. The fire company set up a GoFundMe page to collect money for Black and more than $4,700 had been raised from at least 42 donations as of Tuesday, Jan. 23. The fundraiser page said Black was responding to…
Ex-Jet Muhammad Wilkerson Busted For DWI, Gun Loaded With Hollow Points In North Jersey Stop Ex-Jet Muhammad Wilkerson Busted For DWI, Gun Loaded With Hollow Points In North Jersey Stop
Ex-Jet Muhammad Wilkerson Busted For DWI, Gun Loaded With Hollow Points In North Jersey Stop Former New York Jets pass rusher Muhammad Wilkerson was busted for driving drunk in North Jersey again, only this time with a loaded gun under his seat, according to a published report. Wilkerson told police who stopped him in an unidentified Morris County town shortly after 6:30 a.m. Dec. 22 that he was coming from a club in New York City, TMZ. reported. Police said the retired defensive end smelled strongly of alcohol and was arrested after failing a field sobriety test, according to documents filed in Superior Court in Morristown. Wilkerson, a 34-year-old Linden native, reportedly claim…
Convict In 9-Robbery Spree In NJ, NY Gets Whopping 34 Years in Federal Prison, No Parole Convict In 9-Robbery Spree In NJ, NY Gets Whopping 34 Years in Federal Prison, No Parole
Convict In 9-Robbery Spree In NJ, NY Gets Whopping 34 Years in Federal Prison, No Parole Three Elizabeth men who committed nine armed robberies in less than four months in New Jersey and New York were sentenced to lengthy prison terms. The most severe went to ex-con Vincent Chan-Guillen, 33, who was sentenced to nearly 34 years in federal prison – longer than he’s been alive -- following his conviction of a host of charges. Meanwhile, Jamie Fontanez, 45, got a plea-bargained 14½ years, while 33-year-old Paul Jimenez managed to get 10. All must serve out their terms because there’s no parole in the federal prison system. Store video shows Chan-Guillen pointing a gun at an empl…
Union County Man, 59, Killed In Route 9 Sayreville Crash With Dump Truck Union County Man, 59, Killed In Route 9 Sayreville Crash With Dump Truck
Union County Man, 59, Killed In Route 9 Sayreville Crash With Dump Truck A 59-year-old man from Union County was killed while pulling into a gas station in a collision with a dump truck on Route 9 in Central Jersey, authorities said. Renan Perez, of Linden, died Thursday, Sept. 21 after the crash in the Parlin section of Sayreville, according to Middlesex County Prosecutor Yolanda Ciccone alongside Chief Daniel Plumacker of the Sayreville Police Department. At 5:16 a.m., police responded to Route 9 South in the vicinity of 912 US 9 South after the report of a fatal crash. Police found a 2020 Kenworth dump truck and 2000 Ford Ranger. …
Taylor Swift: Eras Tour Movie Comes To NJ Theaters (And Tickets Are Just $19.89) Taylor Swift: Eras Tour Movie Comes To NJ Theaters (And Tickets Are Just $19.89)
Taylor Swift: Eras Tour Movie Comes To NJ Theaters (And Tickets Are Just $19.89) Couldn't get tickets to see Taylor Swift's The Era Tour in person? You're very much not alone. But don't worry, Swifties, there's a way to experience the pop culture juggernaut. "Taylor Swift: The Eras Tour" will be premiering at AMC Theatres throughout the Garden State starting on Friday, Oct. 13 (obviously) with tickets going on sale Thursday, Aug. 31. Showtimes will run Thursdays to Sundays.  Standard showings are priced at $19.89 (cute!) for adults and $13.13 for seniors and children (of course).  The concert film, which will run 2 hours and 45 minutes long (or short),&…
Massive Motorcycle Ride Honoring 9/11 Flies Through NJ This Weekend (TRACK THE ROUTE) Massive Motorcycle Ride Honoring 9/11 Flies Through NJ This Weekend (TRACK THE ROUTE)
Massive Motorcycle Ride Honoring 9/11 Flies Through NJ This Weekend (Track THE Route) One of the largest motorcycle rides commemorating 9/11 sets off Friday morning, Aug. 18, touring Pennsylvania, Maryland, DC, and New Jersey before closing off at Ground Zero on Sunday, Aug. 20. Click here for maps and the complete itinerary of the 2023 America's 9/11 Ride. Organized by America's 9/11 Foundation, the annual ride raises funds for college scholarships for children of active first responders across the U.S., and assists emergency organizations with funds, materials, equipment and sometimes volunteers. The first leg of America's 9/11 Ride kicked off in Somerset, PA early Friday…
Woodbridge Wegmans Worker Who Battled Brain Cancer For 17 Years Dies: 'Always Been A Fighter' Woodbridge Wegmans Worker Who Battled Brain Cancer For 17 Years Dies: 'Always Been A Fighter'
Woodbridge Wegmans Worker Who Battled Brain Cancer For 17 Years Dies: 'Always Been A Fighter' Victor Vilela, a 42-year-old Elizabeth native, died on Monday, July 24, after a 17-year battle with brain cancer, according to his obituary. Born in Elizabeth, Vilela was an active member of a brain tumor support group and worked at Elizabeth General Hospital, ShopRite in Linden and Wegmans in Woodbridge, his obituary reads. He is survived by his wife, Meghan, his son, Mauricio, his parents, Maria and Acacio, his sister Sonia as well as other family members, according to his obituary. Following his death, Vilela's tribute wall was filled with remembrances. "Your sense of humor had everyon…
NJ Auto Shop Owner Who Stiffed IRS To Wager On Horses Headed To Prison, But Not Furlong NJ Auto Shop Owner Who Stiffed IRS To Wager On Horses Headed To Prison, But Not Furlong
NJ Auto Shop Owner Who Stiffed IRS To Wager On Horses Headed To Prison, But Not Furlong A New Jersey auto repair shop owner who gambled on horse races has to serve a year and a day in federal prison for not ponying up to the IRS, authorities said. Gabriel Ferrari, who was the president and CEO of Buses and Trucks in Linden, tapped his business account for bets at the track, U.S. Attorney Philip R. Sellinger said. Ferrari, of Edison, stiffed the government $291,600 in taxes from a cash payroll and didn’t tell his return preparer, the U.S. attorney said. Ferrari took a deal from federal prosecutors rather than risk the potential consequences of a guilty verdict at a trial. He’l…
20-Year-Old Navy Service Member From NJ Dies In VA Motorcycle Crash 20-Year-Old Navy Service Member From NJ Dies In VA Motorcycle Crash
20-Year-Old Navy Service Member From NJ Dies In VA Motorcycle Crash A 20-year-old motorcyclist from New Jersey died in a motorcycle crash in Virginia last week, authorities said. Quentin Perkins had been riding with a group of motorcyclists from York County to James City County on the Colonial Parkway, before the crash at 820 p.m. on Friday, July 7, county police said. Perkins and another rider went into a turn at high speeds, left the roadway, and crashed into a wooded area. Multiple witnesses on the roadway reported reckless driving by motorcyclists. Perkins, an active-duty U.S. Navy service member, was pronounced dead at the scene by James City County M…
Perth Amboy Woman Dead In Route 287 Crash Perth Amboy Woman Dead In Route 287 Crash
Perth Amboy Woman Dead In Route 287 Crash Authorities have identified the passenger who was killed and the driver seriously injured in the accident that closed a portion of Route 287 southbound on Tuesday evening, July 11. Felipe Exposito-Sanchez, 24, was driving an Infiniti passenger car when the vehicle veered off the left side of the roadway and improperly passed a Nissan passenger car near milepost 18.4 in Bridgewater around 7:30 p.m., NJSP Sgt. Philip Curry said. After re-entering the roadway, the Infiniti struck the left front of the Nissan, veered across the lanes, ran off the road to the right, traveled up an embankment, an…
Frozen Custard And Burger Joint Opens 2nd NJ Spot Thanks To 4th Generation Resident Frozen Custard And Burger Joint Opens 2nd NJ Spot Thanks To 4th Generation Resident
Frozen Custard And Burger Joint Opens 2nd NJ Spot Thanks To 4th Generation Resident Get ready for all the frozen custard and steakburgers you could want. A fourth generation Toms River resident is bringing the second New Jersey location of Freddy's Frozen Custard & Steakburgers® to town. “Being a fourth generation Toms River resident, I’m thrilled to bring the Freddy’s experience to the folks I grew up with, the students who go to school with my children, and the families of the youth I have coached. It’s an incredibly special feeling, and I’m looking forward to seeing the community at our new Freddy’s location,” franchise owner Ed Abramson, said.  “We believe our com…
Major NJ-Based Fentanyl Ring Smashed: 20+ Pounds, 9,000 Doses Seized, Eight Men Out Major NJ-Based Fentanyl Ring Smashed: 20+ Pounds, 9,000 Doses Seized, Eight Men Out
Major Nj-based Fentanyl Ring Smashed: 20+ Pounds, 9,000 Doses Seized, Eight Men Out More than 20 pounds of fentanyl and an additional 9,000 doses of the deadly drug were seized with the arrests of eight members of a major trafficking ring that operated on both sides of the Hudson River, authorities said. Those charged in the federally-led offensive range in age from 37 to 60. They come from New Jersey, New York and Pennsylvania but operated primarily in and around Union County, U.S. Attorney for New Jersey Philip R. Sellinger said. The multi-pronged, eight-month operation relied on all levels of law enforcement, from federal agents to local police who watched and document…
GUILTY: Parolee Faces Long Federal Stretch In NJ, NY Liquor, Convenience Store Holdups GUILTY: Parolee Faces Long Federal Stretch In NJ, NY Liquor, Convenience Store Holdups
Guilty: Parolee Faces Long Federal Stretch In NJ, NY Liquor, Convenience Store Holdups A Union County parolee who was nabbed by Lyndhurst police after a months-long armed robbery spree of liquor and convenience stores in two states -- including one in which he fired a handgun -- was convicted by federal jurors in Newark of all 10 counts against him. Vincent Chan-Guillen, 32, had just been paroled from state prison after serving three years for drug and weapons convictions when the holdups began in August 2018. He committed nine altogether over the next three months, four of them at liquor stores in New Jersey and five others at establishments in New York, the U.S. District Co…
High School Senior Could Be Youngest Zoning Board Member In History For This NJ Town High School Senior Could Be Youngest Zoning Board Member In History For This NJ Town
High School Senior Could Be Youngest Zoning Board Member In History For This NJ Town At 18 years old, Hagr Elweshahy was appointed to the Linden Zoning Board this week. The high school senior's new role makes her the youngest Zoning Board member in city history. Elweshahy was appointed to the Board by Linden Mayor Derek Armstead at the Tuesday night, Feb. 21 City Council meeting. A lifelong Linden resident and Linden High School student, Elweshahy is slated to graduate as the school’s 2023 valedictorian, and is the Commander of Linden’s ROTC (Reserve Officers’ Training Corps).  She is also Linden High School’s Student Council President, former National Honor Society Offi…
Death Of Councilman's Son, World Salsa Champ Devastates Union County Town Death Of Councilman's Son, World Salsa Champ Devastates Union County Town
Death Of Councilman's Son, World Salsa Champ Devastates Union County Town The sudden death of a 10-year-old world Salsa dancing champion whose father is an elected official and mother is a Board of Education member has devastated the Linden community. Ariel Rivas Rosado died in what local officials are calling a "tragic accident" on Friday, Feb. 10.  His mother is BOE member Dayanara Rosado Quezada, and his father is 5th Ward Councilman Carlos Rivas. Funeral Arrangements For 10 year old, Ariel Rivas - Visitation will be this Friday, February 17, 2023, 5:00-9:00pm, at... Posted by Derek Armstead Mayor of Linden on Tuesday, February 14, 2023 A fifth grader a…
Rocker Gets Shipment Of Stranger's Remains With Apparent Ties To NJ Crematorium: Report Rocker Gets Shipment Of Stranger's Remains With Apparent Ties To NJ Crematorium: Report
Rocker Gets Shipment Of Stranger's Remains With Apparent Ties To NJ Crematorium: Report A story that has all the makings of a horror movie was real life for rocker Hamilton Leithauser, who said he got a box containing a complete stranger’s cremated remains — which according to the NY Post had ties to a New Jersey crematorium — in the mail. The 44-year-old The Walkmen performer and solo artist Leithauser detailed the strange shipment that arrived Tuesday, Jan. 31 in a series of tweets. I just received package addressed to "current resident". Address was mine. Inside package are cremated remains of a man from Oct 2017. I do not know the man. I've lived here for 6 years. (1…
This New Jersey Diner Is Among Guy Fieri's Favorites, Website Says This New Jersey Diner Is Among Guy Fieri's Favorites, Website Says
This New Jersey Diner Is Among Guy Fieri's Favorites, Website Says Guy Fieri has dined at thousands of diners across the US and dozens in New Jersey on his Food Network show "Diners, Drive-Ins and Dives." Mashed has compiled a list of the best "Triple D" diners, and for the Garden State, flavortown is in Linden. "You can get some delicious, homemade diner classics in New Jersey at Johnny Prince's Bayway Diner in Linden," the site says.  "It's a casual joint serving up well known diner staples, but locals call it 'a special place.' And Guy Fieri once called it one of his favorite stops on Diners, Drive-Ins and Dives (per an interview with The Street).…
Habitual Offender Who Bathed In McDonald's Bathroom Gets Tased Twice: Garfield PD Habitual Offender Who Bathed In McDonald's Bathroom Gets Tased Twice: Garfield PD
Habitual Offender Who Bathed In McDonald's Bathroom Gets Tased Twice: Garfield PD A habitual offender who used a McDonald's bathroom to bathe fought with responding Garfield police officers and ended up being tased twice, authorities said. Officers responding to a call at the Passaic Street fast-food restaurant shortly before 10 p.m. Monday, Nov. 28, were told that Robert P. Glodek, 33, was "using their bathroom as a shower and refused to leave," Capt. Mario X. Pozo said. Officer Joseph Kopacz approached Glodek outside the McDonald’s and tried getting his ID in case McDonald's wanted to pursue criminal charges, the captain said. Glodek, of Union Township, "refused to co…
'RHONJ' Star's Stolen Porsche Found Totaled After North Jersey Pursuit 'RHONJ' Star's Stolen Porsche Found Totaled After North Jersey Pursuit
'Rhonj' Star's Stolen Porsche Found Totaled After North Jersey Pursuit "Real Housewives of New Jersey" star Dolores Catania found her stolen Porsche — but it's completely destroyed, Daily Voice has learned. The car — which was purchased for her by ex-boyfriend David Principe for her 50th birthday in Season 11 — was stolen by thieves from her current boyfriend Paulie Connell's Edgewater apartment last weekend, Connell tells Daily Voice. Police pursued thieves in the car from Elizabeth before it was found totaled in Linden, having crashed into a pole, Connell said. "[Dolores] had just finished with Bravocon and she had a lot of stuff in the car b…
SEE ANYTHING? Bike-Riding, Backpack-Carrying Bank Robber Sought By NJ FBI SEE ANYTHING? Bike-Riding, Backpack-Carrying Bank Robber Sought By NJ FBI
SEE Anything? Bike-Riding, Backpack-Carrying Bank Robber Sought By NJ FBI He carried a backpack and rode a bike with silver wheels. His black leather shoes had a patch on the toe, and his head was swathed in a surgical mask, gaiter, baseball cap and the hood of his coat.  He also had a gun. A bundled-up robber "handed the teller a demand note and displayed a gun" at the Wells Fargo Bank branch on West Saint Georges Avenue in Linden a demand note shortly after 12:30 p.m. Tuesday, according to the FBI's Newark Field Office. The bandit had a medium complexion and was about 5-feet-10-inches tall, with a thin build, the bureau reported shortly after the holdup. …
BMW Driver Was Doing 'Burn Out' In H2oi Golf Cart Crash That Hurt Dad: Prosecutor BMW Driver Was Doing 'Burn Out' In H2oi Golf Cart Crash That Hurt Dad: Prosecutor
BMW Driver Was Doing 'Burn Out' In H2oi Golf Cart Crash That Hurt Dad: Prosecutor A 22-year-old man from Linden has been arrested in connection with a golf cart crash that left a 31-year-old dad hurt during the H2oi weekend meet-up in Wildwood, authorities said. Eryk R. Wnek was doing a "burn out" in his 2020 BMW when he collided with another vehicle and then the golf cart, operated by Erhan Bayram, of Williamstown around 9:23 p.m. on Rio Grande and Park Boulevard around 9:20 p.m. Saturday, Sept. 24, Cape May County Prosecutor Jeffrey H. Sutherland and Chief Robert Regalbuto of the Wildwood Police Department said. Bayram was airlifted to the Atlantic City …
PLOT TWIST: Attendant Helped Plan Gas Station Robbery Off Garden State Parkway, Feds Charge PLOT TWIST: Attendant Helped Plan Gas Station Robbery Off Garden State Parkway, Feds Charge
Plot Twist: Attendant Helped Plan Gas Station Robbery Off Garden State Parkway, Feds Charge Federal authorities charged a gas station attendant with planning the robbery of a newly-opened QuickChek where he worked just off the Garden State Parkway. An indictment returned by a federal grand jury in Newark accuses Tyrone Crutchfield-Davis, 27, of Linden of plotting the Dec. 15, 2019 holdup on North Avenue at Exit 137 in Cranford with three associates. Authorities had previously identified the other three men -- Wiggins Cadet, 24, and Khalil Brown, 23, of Roselle, and Zyquan McCray, 23, of Linden. It turns out Crutchfield-Davis -- a former standout high school quarterback with a cri…
Toddler Drowned In North Jersey Pool Was Brother's Fearless Bestie Toddler Drowned In North Jersey Pool Was Brother's Fearless Bestie
Toddler Drowned In North Jersey Pool Was Brother's Fearless Bestie Support is surging for the brother and parents of a North Jersey boy who drowned in a backyard pool over the weekend. Christian Carter Ruiz was rushed to the hospital on Sunday, July 31, after his lifeless body was pulled from a pool on the 400 block of McKinley Street in Linden, according to police and those who know the family. Christian was pronounced dead at Trinitas Regional Medical Center, leaving his family in shock and disbelief. "Christian was a sweet little boy, funny, fearless, and could brighten even your darkest days," his godmother Marcia Pimentel wrote on a GoFundMe pag…
Fentanyl Trafficking Network Dismantled In Pre-Dawn Middlesex Bust: Prosecutor Fentanyl Trafficking Network Dismantled In Pre-Dawn Middlesex Bust: Prosecutor
Fentanyl Trafficking Network Dismantled In Pre-Dawn Middlesex Bust: Prosecutor A fentanyl trafficking network was dismantled by authorities who seized nearly a quarter-pound of the highly-lethal drug, two handguns and several thousand dollars in suspected drug money, the Union County Prosecutor's Office announced. The three-month investigation concluded before dawn on June 20 with the execution of search warrants across Phillipsburg, Middlesex Borough and in homes on Charles and Hussa streets in Linden, according to Assistant Prosecutors Peter DeRose and Megan Tomlinson, who are prosecuting the case. Seized were approximately 100 grams of raw fentanyl, hundr…
Driver Charged In Fatal Central Jersey Crash, Victim ID'd Driver Charged In Fatal Central Jersey Crash, Victim ID'd
Driver Charged In Fatal Central Jersey Crash, Victim ID'd A 27-year-old man from Mercer County has been arrested in connection with a fatal crash in Central Jersey, authorities said. Egrevel Vasquez-Garcia of Hightstown was charged in the crash that occurred on Tuesday, June 28 on Route 130 in North Brunswick, according to Middlesex County Prosecutor Yolanda Ciccone and Chief Joseph Battaglia of the North Brunswick Police Department. An investigation by Detective Jason Vallese of the North Brunswick Police Department, Detective Jonathan Berman and Detective James Alleva of the Middlesex County Prosecutor’s Office determined tha…
Woman Left Elderly Disabled Person In Sun Causing Heatstroke: AG Woman Left Elderly Disabled Person In Sun Causing Heatstroke: AG
Woman Left Elderly Disabled Person In Sun Causing Heatstroke: AG A 28-year-old woman from Union County has been indicted for allegedly neglecting an elderly disabled person in her care, authorities said. Valerie Pinchinat, of Linden, was indicted for third-degree neglect of an elderly or disabled person., they said.  The indictment was returned by a grand jury on Wednesday, May 11, according to Acting Attorney General Matthew J. Platkin. The victim purportedly suffered heatstroke and second-degree burns as a result of the defendant’s alleged neglect, Plotkin said. On July 4, 2019, Pinchinat allegedly left the elderly disabled person in her ca…
NJ Woman Who Strangled GF With Power Cord, Buried Her Body Learns Her Fate NJ Woman Who Strangled GF With Power Cord, Buried Her Body Learns Her Fate
NJ Woman Who Strangled GF With Power Cord, Buried Her Body Learns Her Fate A New Jersey woman who killed her girlfriend by strangling her with a power cord then buried her body in the backyard has learned her fate. Jennifer Sweeney, 38, of Tinton Falls, was sentenced to 95 years in prison for the murder of 41-year-old Tyrita Julius in 2015, Acting Monmouth County Prosecutor Lori Linskey said Saturday, May 7. She won't be eligible for parole until she is 100 years old. The Daily Mail says Sweeney acted out of jealousy when she hired someone to have Julius shot, but months later when she didn't die, Sweeney wrapped her girlfriend's neck in a power cord then bur…
NJ Auto Shop Finds Human Teeth Stuck In Car After Deadly Shopping Cart Crash: Report NJ Auto Shop Finds Human Teeth Stuck In Car After Deadly Shopping Cart Crash: Report
NJ Auto Shop Finds Human Teeth Stuck In Car After Deadly Shopping Cart Crash: Report An auto body shop found human remains stuck in a car's undercarriage more than a month after a crash that killed a man pushing a shopping cart on the New Jersey Turnpike, local police confirmed. A driver involved in the crash brought her car to the Goodyear Auto Shop in Linden on Monday, Feb. 7 for service, when mechanics noticed some human remains stuck in the undercarriage, Lt. Christopher Guenther said. "She may have thought she ran over some kind of debris, but as it turned out it was some remains," Guenther told NBC News. "She wasn't the initial striking vehicle, and for whatever reaso…