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Tommy Manzo Admits Stalking 'RHONJ' Star Ex-Wife Dina, Husband David Cantin In Home Invasion Tommy Manzo Admits Stalking 'RHONJ' Star Ex-Wife Dina, Husband David Cantin In Home Invasion
Tommy Manzo Admits Stalking 'Rhonj' Star Ex-Wife Dina, Husband David Cantin In Home Invasion Thomas "Tommy" Manzo, the ex-husband of "The Real Housewives of New Jersey" star Dina Cantin, admitted to stalking her and her then-fiancé now-husband David Cantin in a 2017 home invasion, authorities said. Thomas "Tommy" Manzo, 59, pleaded guilty to two counts of fourth-degree stalking, Monmouth County Prosecutor Raymond Santiago said in a news release on Wednesday, Oct. 30.  The Franklin Lakes man entered the guilty plea on Wednesday, Oct. 23 — about a week after he was sentenced to seven years in federal prison for enlisting a mobster to assault David Cantin in 2015, as re…
State Revokes License Of NJ Teacher Accused Of Stalking Student 'Boyfriend' For Years State Revokes License Of NJ Teacher Accused Of Stalking Student 'Boyfriend' For Years
State Revokes License Of NJ Teacher Accused Of Stalking Student 'Boyfriend' For Years State education officials have revoked the license of an Edison teacher accused of a years-long sexual relationship with a student, as previously reported by Daily Voice. Julius Coaccioli was found with child porn over in Summer 2023 but was slapped with new charges after one of the victims depicted in a video found in his home was identified as his former Edison Township Middle School student, according to documents obtained by Daily Voice (scroll down for details on the arrest). At its Sept. 19, 2024 meeting, the New Jersey State Board of Examiners (Board) reviewed an affidavit …
'Sleep With One Eye Open:' Paterson Officer's Charges Detailed In Affidavit 'Sleep With One Eye Open:' Paterson Officer's Charges Detailed In Affidavit
'Sleep With One Eye Open:' Paterson Officer's Charges Detailed In Affidavit More information has come to light in the arrest of a 38-year-old Paterson police officer. Alberto Sanabria was indicted by a grand jury on one count of third-degree terroristic threats, one count of fourth-degree cyber harassment, and one count of fourth-degree stalking, Passaic County Prosecutor Camelia M. Valdes announced on Monday, Aug. 12. The affidavit for probable cause obtained by Daily Voice says Sanabria sent the following message to his ex-girlfriend: “Hello remember me you got me fired from [redacted]. Just want to let you know I hope you sleep with one eye open from now o…
NJ Victim Seriously Burned In Chemical Attack Carried Out By FL Pair Hired By Ex-BF: Cops NJ Victim Seriously Burned In Chemical Attack Carried Out By FL Pair Hired By Ex-BF: Cops
NJ Victim Seriously Burned In Chemical Attack Carried Out By FL Pair Hired By Ex-BF: Cops Three Florida residents are in custody after police said one paid two others to carry out a chemical attack on his ex-girlfriend in New Jersey, who was airlifted to a hospital with serious burns, police said. William DiBernardino, 49, of Boynton Beach, FL, recruited Jmarr McNeil, 39, and Betty Jo Lane, 38, in the Friday, July 26 incident in Monroe (Gloucester County), Police Chief Thomas Gilbert said. The 42-year-old victim was returning from work when the attack happened, police said. As she opened her car door, Lane threw a cup of a highly caustic acid on her, and she suffered burns acros…
Video Shows Officers Tackling Accused Stalker In Stolen Car Outside Teterboro Airport Video Shows Officers Tackling Accused Stalker In Stolen Car Outside Teterboro Airport
Video Shows Officers Tackling Accused Stalker In Stolen Car Outside Teterboro Airport Newly-released video shows the takedown of a 37-year-old accused stalker who stole an SUV from a local dealership just hours after being released from the Bergen County Jail, as previously reported by Daily Voice. Footage shared by David Stayback shows officers from multiple police departments with guns drawn surrounding a white Acura SUV at the entrance of Teterboro Airport Thursday morning, Aug. 15 (scroll for video). Maywood PD Stayback said he was en route to Walmart to get T-shirts ahead of an upcoming family vacation when he noticed Wood-Ridge Officer Cangelosi, also a wel…
Stalker Fresh Out Of Bergen County Jail Steals Car From Dealership Lot, Police Say Stalker Fresh Out Of Bergen County Jail Steals Car From Dealership Lot, Police Say
Stalker Fresh Out Of Bergen County Jail Steals Car From Dealership Lot, Police Say A 37-year-old man fresh out of jail for stalking was arrested just hours later in Bergen County, police said. Daniel MacTaggart, of Elmwood Park, was jailed on Sunday, Aug. 11 on charges of stalking as a repeat offender, driving on a suspended license/registration, and failure to possess driver's insurance card, court records show. ALSO SEE: Video Shows Officers Tackling Accused Stalker In Stolen Car Outside Teterboro Airport Hours after his release, MacTaggart walked into the service area of Park Avenue Acura on W. Passaic Street in Maywood around 8;30 a.m. on Thursday, Aug. 15,…
Paterson Officer Released Pending Trial On Stalking, Cyber Harassment Charges: Prosecutor Paterson Officer Released Pending Trial On Stalking, Cyber Harassment Charges: Prosecutor
Paterson Officer Released Pending Trial On Stalking, Cyber Harassment Charges: Prosecutor A 38-year-old Paterson police officer has been indicted by a grand jury on domestic violence charges, authorities said. Alberto Sanabria was indicted on on one count of third-degree terroristic threats, one count of fourth-degree cyber harassment, and one count of fourth degree stalking, Passaic County Prosecutor Camelia M. Valdes said. Police did not release details in Sanabria's arrest. Sanabria was released on a summons and is expected to appear before Superior Court Judge Barbara Buono Stanton on Aug. 19.
'I've Seen You Before,' Sex Offender Told Teen Victim He Stalked On Bergen County Streets: Cops 'I've Seen You Before,' Sex Offender Told Teen Victim He Stalked On Bergen County Streets: Cops
'I've Seen You Before,' Sex Offender Told Teen Victim He Stalked On Bergen County Streets: Cops A sex offender convicted in both New Jersey and New York has been arrested once again, this time for stalking a 19-year-old woman in two Bergen County towns, police said. Blake Tannen, 34, of Saddle River, was charged with stalking on Saturday, July 27, the same day that a visibly upset 19-year-old woman approach Ridgewood Police Officer Schumann, while he was on patrol, Ridgewood Police Chief Forest Lyons said. Around 3:45 that afternoon, the woman told Schumann, who was on patrol, that she was walking to her car in Ramsey on July 18, when she noticed she was being followed  by a man,…
HERO: Civilian Rescues Woman From Serial Groper Who Tried To Drag Her Behind Garfield Church HERO: Civilian Rescues Woman From Serial Groper Who Tried To Drag Her Behind Garfield Church
Hero: Civilian Rescues Woman From Serial Groper Who Tried To Drag Her Behind Garfield Church UPDATE: A serial groper who was captured by a SWAT team after a civilian stopped him from dragging a woman behind a church in Garfield earlier this month had been stalking the victim at least since April, authorities said. Garfield police have surveillance video of Michael Hernandez, 25, following, running up and grabbing the woman outside Praise Assembly church at the corner of Main Street and Banta Avenue shortly after 12 noon May 8, investigators said. Grabbing her by her neck and backpack, Hernandez tries to drag the woman behind the church, they said. But a good Samaritan comes to her…
Video Shows Serial Groper Trying To Drag Woman Behind Garfield Church, Hero Saving Her Video Shows Serial Groper Trying To Drag Woman Behind Garfield Church, Hero Saving Her
Video Shows Serial Groper Trying To Drag Woman Behind Garfield Church, Hero Saving Her UPDATE: A serial groper who was captured by a SWAT team after a civilian stopped him from dragging a woman behind a church in Garfield earlier this month had been stalking the victim at least since April, authorities said. Garfield police have surveillance video of Michael Hernandez, 25, following, running up and grabbing the woman outside Praise Assembly church at the corner of Main Street and Banta Avenue shortly after 12 noon May 8, investigators said. Grabbing her by her neck and backpack, Hernandez tries to drag the woman behind the church, they said. But a good Samaritan comes t…
NJ Killer With Manifesto, Step-By-Step Murder Plan Indicted By Grand Jury: Somerset Prosecutor NJ Killer With Manifesto, Step-By-Step Murder Plan Indicted By Grand Jury: Somerset Prosecutor
NJ Killer With Manifesto, Step-By-Step Murder Plan Indicted By Grand Jury: Somerset Prosecutor A Somerset County grand jury has indicted a 27-year-old man for the killing of a young woman in January. On Thursday, April 25, David C. Shroitman was indicted for the Jan. 30 murder of 27-year-old Mary Rose Fealey in Somerville, Somerset County Prosecutor John McDonald announced. Maryrose Fealey Maryrose Fealey Facebook Fealey, a Somerville resident, was found by Somerville police responding to a 911 call, outside a residential complex on North Bridge Street  She had been returning home from a local business, the passenger door of her car wide open with her belongings spread …
UPDATE: Convicted Stalker Goes After NJ Police Chief Yet Again UPDATE: Convicted Stalker Goes After NJ Police Chief Yet Again
Update: Convicted Stalker Goes After NJ Police Chief Yet Again A convicted stalker who authorities said won't stop harassing Hillsdale Police Chief Sean Smith is back behind bars – only this time it might be for awhile. Patrick McMeekin, 56, of Newark spent a combined 20 months in the Bergen County Jail before and after he was convicted of a stalking campaign several years ago. He finished out a six-month state prison stretch last June, records show. SEE: Convicted Stalker Targets Same Bergen Victim With Emails To Schools, Towns, Others Soon after he was released he was once again sending slanderous emails to a host of people accusing Hillsdale …
MRI Tech Terrorizes People By Posing As Them Online, Mailing Letter To One: Bergen Prosecutor MRI Tech Terrorizes People By Posing As Them Online, Mailing Letter To One: Bergen Prosecutor
MRI Tech Terrorizes People By Posing As Them Online, Mailing Letter To One: Bergen Prosecutor An MRI tech from Hudson County terrorized a number of people, including by mailing letters to one victim’s job in Bergenfield, said authorities who arrested him on Monday. Sarju Patel, 39, who lives at Half Moon Harbour on River Road in North Bergen, already had a criminal history that stretches back nearly two decades, records show. This time, the Bergenfield native created social media accounts that “used vanity names in the likeness of the victims, posted photographs of the victims [and] ‘checked-in’ online at various locations associated with the victims,” Bergen County Prosecutor Mark …
'This Is Your Final Warning:' NJ Pair Set Off Bomb In Biz Associate's Driveway, Feds Say 'This Is Your Final Warning:' NJ Pair Set Off Bomb In Biz Associate's Driveway, Feds Say
'This Is Your Final Warning:' NJ Pair Set Off Bomb In Biz Associate's Driveway, Feds Say While being interviewed by investigators, a New York resident got the following text message: "Knock knock, show up, and what do you think is next. This is your final warning.”  The text was from Damjan Stanivukovic, a Closter resident, who was later arrested for exploding a bomb in the victim's New York driveway with help from Vladamir Radunovic, who has ties to Pompton Lakes, Clifton, and Paterson, according to court documents filed with the US District Court of the Southern District of New York. Stanivukovic and Radunovic were arrested Saturday morning, Jan…
Complaint Details How Edison Teacher Stalked, Sexualized Middle School Student For Years Complaint Details How Edison Teacher Stalked, Sexualized Middle School Student For Years
Complaint Details How Edison Teacher Stalked, Sexualized Middle School Student For Years Disturbing details are coming to light following the arrest of a 55-year-old Edison teacher accused of a years-long sexual relationship with a student, police paperwork shows. Julius Coaccioli was found with child porn over the summer but was slapped with new charges after one of the victims in the tapes found in his home was identified as his former Edison Township Middle School student, according to documents obtained by Daily Voice. In an interview with detectives on Dec. 5, the victim detailed how Coaccioli began grooming him when he was in sixth grade, in 2013, and continued messaging …
NY Man Who Assaulted Female Passenger On Flight To Newark Gets 2 Years, No Parole NY Man Who Assaulted Female Passenger On Flight To Newark Gets 2 Years, No Parole
NY Man Who Assaulted Female Passenger On Flight To Newark Gets 2 Years, No Parole UPDATE: An upstate New York man who admitted assaulting a fellow passenger on a flight from Denver to Newark must spend two plea-bargained years in federal prison. Ryan Manuella, 30, of Erie County, “moved to a vacant center seat next to a female passenger, who was sitting in a window seat” on the April 16, 2021 flight, U.S. Attorney Philip R. Sellinger said. Manuella, who didn't know the woman, then "touched the passenger without her consent," Sellinger said. "The victim then yelled at him and left the row of seats," the U.S. attorney said. Defense attorney Andrew Olesnyck…
Former Officer Charged With Tapping Police Database To Stalk Passaic County Victim Former Officer Charged With Tapping Police Database To Stalk Passaic County Victim
Former Officer Charged With Tapping Police Database To Stalk Passaic County Victim A now-former Palisades Interstate Parkway police officer used information from a law enforcement database to stalk an individual in Passaic County, authorities charged. Amir Sikder, 22, of Paterson was able to find the victim in Wayne after tapping into the database, Passaic County Prosecutor Camelia M. Valdes, Wayne Police Chief Jack McNiff and Palisades Interstate Parkway Police Chief Steven Shallop said in a joint announcement on Friday, Oct. 6. Sikder was arrested in Totowa on Thursday by members of Valdes’s Public Integrity Unit following a probe with detectives from McNiff’s Criminal…
Ho-Ho-Kus PD: Threatening Emails To Former Co-Worker Lead To Arrest Of Nassau County Man Ho-Ho-Kus PD: Threatening Emails To Former Co-Worker Lead To Arrest Of Nassau County Man
Ho-Ho-Kus PD: Threatening Emails To Former Co-Worker Lead To Arrest Of Nassau County Man A Long Island man was charged with sending threatening emails to a former co-worker in Ho-Ho-Kus, borough police said. Craig N. Sabatini, 37, of Massapequa, was taken into custody near the borough train station late last week, Capt. Greg McBain said. Police charged him with stalking, harassment and cyberharassment stemming from an incident on Aug. 24, records show. Sabatini was sent to the Bergen County Jail last Friday, Sept. 1, and was ordered released by a judge in Hackensack on Sunday. He was to have no contact with the alleged victim under the terms of his release.
Cop Stalked Teen Girl, Sent Sexual Photos, Handcuffed Her On Jersey Shore: Prosecutor Cop Stalked Teen Girl, Sent Sexual Photos, Handcuffed Her On Jersey Shore: Prosecutor
Cop Stalked Teen Girl, Sent Sexual Photos, Handcuffed Her On Jersey Shore: Prosecutor A patrolman at the Jersey Shore has been arrested and charged with engaging in a pattern of illegal behavior with a teenage girl, authorities said. Kevin Ruditsky, 46, who works in Manalapan Township, is believed to have sent the 16-year-old girl sexually explicit photos and handcuffed her during a traffic stop, according to Monmouth County Prosecutor Raymond S. Santiago. An investigation by the MCPO Professional Responsibility Unit was initiated earlier this month upon learning that Ruditsky had been sending inappropriate messages and photos to a 16-year-old girl, …
Gang Member Who Stabbed New Leonia GF Dead With Young Daughter Home Gets 35 Years In Prison Gang Member Who Stabbed New Leonia GF Dead With Young Daughter Home Gets 35 Years In Prison
Gang Member Who Stabbed New Leonia GF Dead With Young Daughter Home Gets 35 Years In Prison UPDATE: A Paterson gang member was sentenced to 30 years in prison for stabbing his new girlfriend to death in the Leonia apartment that she shared with her young daughter. Murder pleas are rare in Bergen County, where deals are often cut for just about every other charge. Nile “OG Cripp” Diakos, 36, nonetheless got a deal from prosecutors in the March 26, 2022 stabbing death of Alicia Arnone, 35. In exchange for his guilty plea, the Bergen County Prosecutor’s Office agreed to a 30-year sentence – with no parole. Another five will be tacked on for stalking and weapons possession by a con…
Love Triangle: NYC Man Again Convicted Of Murdering Popular Teaneck Software Engineer Love Triangle: NYC Man Again Convicted Of Murdering Popular Teaneck Software Engineer
Love Triangle: NYC Man Again Convicted Of Murdering Popular Teaneck Software Engineer Jurors in Hackensack convicted a Manhattan man for a second time of brutally murdering a popular software engineer in his Teaneck home. Sui Kam "Tony" Tung was found guilty of all counts in the horrific killing of Robert Cantor, who authorities said was his estranged wife's lover, over a decade ago. Superior Court Judge Christopher Kazlau scheduled sentencing for Sept. 8. Tung faces a minimum of 30 years and a maximum of life, Bergen County Prosecutor Mark Musella said. Tung was found guilty of the same crimes in 2016, but a state appeals court overturned the convictions and sent the case…
STALKER: Saddle Brook Man, 58, Charged With Secretly Tracking Ex From Lyndhurst, 33 STALKER: Saddle Brook Man, 58, Charged With Secretly Tracking Ex From Lyndhurst, 33
Stalker: Saddle Brook Man, 58, Charged With Secretly Tracking Ex From Lyndhurst, 33 A 58-year-old Saddle Brook resident who'd dated a Lyndhurst woman 25 years his junior hid a GPS tracking device on her SUV. Lyndhurst Police Detective Chris Cuneo obtained and reviewed surveillance video after the 33-year-old woman found the device on her Range Rover and called police earlier this month, Detective Lt. Vincent Auteri said on Wednesday, June 21. Cuneo identified Jesus Martinez as the culprit, the lieutenant said. Martinez was charged with stalking and released pending court action, he said.
Upstate NY Man Admits Assaulting Female Passenger On Flight To Newark Upstate NY Man Admits Assaulting Female Passenger On Flight To Newark
Upstate NY Man Admits Assaulting Female Passenger On Flight To Newark A New York State man admitted assaulting a female passenger on a flight to Newark Airport, federal authorities in New Jersey said. Ryan Manuella, 30, "moved to a vacant seat next to a female passenger and touched the passenger without her consent" on a flight from Denver on April 16, 2021, U.S. Attorney Philip R. Sellinger said. Manuella -- of the Erie County town of Cheektowaga, just northeast of Buffalo -- didn't know the woman, according to a complaint on file in U.S. District Court in Newark. The victim then yelled at him and left the row of seats, Sellinger said. Manuella took a deal…
'PlugwalkJoe' Admits Unprecedented Twitter Hack That Included Musk, Kardashian, Biden: Feds 'PlugwalkJoe' Admits Unprecedented Twitter Hack That Included Musk, Kardashian, Biden: Feds
'PlugwalkJoe' Admits Unprecedented Twitter Hack That Included Musk, Kardashian, Biden: Feds A 23-year-old British citizen who hacked the Twitter accounts of Joe Biden, Elon Musk, Kim Kardashian and Bill Gates, among others, pleaded guilty in federal court to a host of related charges as part of a deal with the government. Joseph James O'Connor -- also known as "PlugwalkJoe" -- technically faces up to 77 years in prison under federal sentencing guidelines but will likely get somewhere between 10 to 20 years when all is said and done. The Liverpudlian hacker admitted during a plea hearing in federal court in Manhattan on Tuesday, May 9, that he committed one of the largest high-pro…
Stalker From Fort Lee Threatens Officer, Family In Old Tappan: Police Stalker From Fort Lee Threatens Officer, Family In Old Tappan: Police
Stalker From Fort Lee Threatens Officer, Family In Old Tappan: Police A law enforcement officer in Old Tappan and his family were threatened by an online stalker from Fort Lee, authorities said following her arrest. Sammie E. Kim, 46, directed threats and harassment at the officer and family from various anonymous social media accounts over the course of several months, Old Tappan Police Chief Joseph Tracy said on Thursday, April 13. An arrest warrant was approved by a local judge after Old Tappan Police Detective Sgt. Charles DiMaria identified Kim as the source, the chief said. Fort Lee police took Kim into custody and turned her over to their Old Tappan c…
RCNJ Hosts Symposium On 'Power-Based' Dating Violence On Campus RCNJ Hosts Symposium On 'Power-Based' Dating Violence On Campus
Rcnj Hosts Symposium On 'Power-Based' Dating Violence On Campus The cold-blooded killings of four female college students in Idaho just months ago make a symposium next week at Ramapo College on stalking and dating violence on campus more than relevant. "Power-Based Violence: A Look into College Life" will delve into social media harassment, stalking behavior, sign recognition, resource disparities and barriers that prevent marginalized populations from coming forward to report such crimes. What violence prevention on campus looks like will also be discussed. New Milford Councilman Matthew Seymour will moderate the 5th annual Domestic Violence Awarenes…
Can't Let Go: Garfield Stalker With 30-Year Grudge Harasses Franklin Lakes Man, Police Say Can't Let Go: Garfield Stalker With 30-Year Grudge Harasses Franklin Lakes Man, Police Say
Can't Let Go: Garfield Stalker With 30-Year Grudge Harasses Franklin Lakes Man, Police Say A Garfield man with a history of harassment charges was jailed after authorities said he stalked and threatened a man in Franklin Lakes over a perceived slight from 30 or so years ago. Steven Thomas, 57, blamed the victim for hurting someone close to him, Capt. Mark McCombs said. "He dug up the victim's phone number, threatened him and released things from his past," the captain said. "The victim is frightened." Thomas already had a history, including an alleged child-luring incident involving a neighbor's son in 2018, criminal records show. He was also reportedly charged with harassment b…
Stranger Stalks Teen Walking Dog, Shows Lewd Photos, Talks Dirty: Hasbrouck Heights PD Stranger Stalks Teen Walking Dog, Shows Lewd Photos, Talks Dirty: Hasbrouck Heights PD
Stranger Stalks Teen Walking Dog, Shows Lewd Photos, Talks Dirty: Hasbrouck Heights PD A Hasbrouck Heights teen walking her dog was followed by a stranger who got out of his car, showed her pornographic photos and made lewd comments, authorities said. Borough detectives immediately converged on the area and collected video that helped identify him and his car, Lt. John Behr said. Runaldo Yanpiel Miliano-Almonte, 24, of Passaic was later captured and charged with stalking, luring and lewdness, the lieutenant said. The 18-year-old woman went to headquarters and told police that Miliano-Almonte followed her in a white Honda Accord while making suggestive comments and askin…
Motel Guest Covered In Lotion Rescued From Knife-Wielding Woman At Little Ferry Motel: Police Motel Guest Covered In Lotion Rescued From Knife-Wielding Woman At Little Ferry Motel: Police
Motel Guest Covered In Lotion Rescued From Knife-Wielding Woman At Little Ferry Motel: Police Little Ferry police rescued a motel guest from Hackensack from a knife-wielding Englewood woman who covered him in lotion and held him against his will, authorities said. Responding officers two people arguing loudly on the other side of the room door when they arrived at the Capri Inn, Police Chief James Walters said. Desarey Victoria Hutchison, 31, who records show has a history of stalking arrests, initially refused to open the door, the chief said. She finally relented but was “extremely irate and screaming," he said. The officers found the 35-year-old victim covered head-to-toe in lo…
‘Stalker’s Christmas’: Accused Restraining Order Violator Spends Valentine's Day In Bergen Jail ‘Stalker’s Christmas’: Accused Restraining Order Violator Spends Valentine's Day In Bergen Jail
‘Stalker’s Christmas’: Accused Restraining Order Violator Spends Valentine's Day In Bergen Jail The approach of Valentine’s Day this year brought a repeat stalker all the way from Queens to Franklin Lakes – and then to jail, authorities reported. Chiawei Chuang, 41, of Flushing had previously been charged with stalking the same person when she allegedly showed up again late Monday, Feb. 13, on a small street in the northwest Bergen County town where the victim lives. Police were called shortly before 10 p.m. and arrested Chuang, who criminal records list as a citizen of the Federated States of Micronesia. She remained held in the Bergen County Jail on Tuesday while awaiting a first a…
NJ Man Had Help From Brother Hiding Ex's Body In Chemical Filled Trash Bags, Jury Finds NJ Man Had Help From Brother Hiding Ex's Body In Chemical Filled Trash Bags, Jury Finds
NJ Man Had Help From Brother Hiding Ex's Body In Chemical Filled Trash Bags, Jury Finds A Newark man was convicted of stalking and killing his ex-girlfriend in 2018 before trying to disintegrate her remains by keeping them in garbage bags filled with chemicals, authorities announced.  The man's brother was also convicted of trying to hide the body. A history of domestic violence including strangulation and aggravated assault led up to the harrowing moment Gualberto Lebron, now 37, killed Julia Vega, a mom of three, Acting Essex County Prosecutor Theodore N. Stephens II said. During one incident, Vega escaped the apartment where her children were, and was chased outs…