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NJ Ranks Among Top States For Hospital Safety In Fall 2024, Leapfrog Report Finds NJ Ranks Among Top States For Hospital Safety In Fall 2024, Leapfrog Report Finds
NJ Ranks Among Top States For Hospital Safety In Fall 2024, Leapfrog Report Finds New Jersey hospitals are among the safest in the nation, according to the fall 2024 Hospital Safety Grade report from The Leapfrog Group.  The Garden State ranks in the top 10 states for the highest percentage of "A" hospitals, joining states like Utah, Virginia, and Connecticut. The grades, which are updated twice a year, assess nearly 3,000 hospitals across the country on their effectiveness at preventing medical errors, accidents, and infections. The Leapfrog Hospital Safety Grade uses up to 30 performance measures to assign grades ranging from "A" to "F," offering patients and fami…
Post-Drug Deal Arrest Nets Cocaine From North Bergen Man Wanted On 8 Warrants In Guttenberg: PD Post-Drug Deal Arrest Nets Cocaine From North Bergen Man Wanted On 8 Warrants In Guttenberg: PD
Post-Drug Deal Arrest Nets Cocaine From North Bergen Man Wanted On 8 Warrants In Guttenberg: PD A 42-year-old North Bergen man was arrested and charged with possessing cocaine on Tuesday, Oct. 29, in Guttenberg, authorities said. Officers conducted a traffic stop after observing the vehicle's driver, later identified as Olinsser Vera, engage in what appeared to be drug transaction, Guttenberg police said. Officers believed the driver was engaged in criminal activity and requested the Bayonne Police Department's K9 unit, police said. The narcotics K9 conducted a free air sniff of the vehicle, during which the K-9 indicated to the presence of narcotics within the vehicle, police sa…
Killer Gets 35 Years For Deadly Bergen Town Center Stabbing: Prosecutor Killer Gets 35 Years For Deadly Bergen Town Center Stabbing: Prosecutor
Killer Gets 35 Years For Deadly Bergen Town Center Stabbing: Prosecutor A 74-year-old North Bergen man was sentenced on Wednesday, Oct. 16, to 35 years in prison for fatally stabbing a man in 2021, authorities said. On Tuesday, Feb. 16, 2021, Augusto Perez stabbed Omar Cruz, a 64-year-old Albany, NY resident, to death behind the Ulta Beauty store in the Bergen Town Center mall in Maywood, Bergen County Prosecutor Mark Muella said. With his dying breath, Cruz identified his killer, as previously reported by Daily Voice. Perez was arrested the next day, Musella said. Perez was convicted of aggravated manslaughter in April following a six-week trial, Mu…
Big Lots To Shut These New Jersey Stores: Closing Sales Under Way Big Lots To Shut These New Jersey Stores: Closing Sales Under Way
Big Lots To Shut These New Jersey Stores: Closing Sales Under Way Big Lots! has announced the closures of even more locations since filing for bankruptcy in September. The company announced on Monday, Sept. 9 that it will sell its assets to an affiliate of private equity firm Nexus Capital Management. Additional closures were approved this month in bankruptcy court.  New Jersey has 27 stores, and 13 of them are set to close with closing sales underway. They are: Cherry Hill, 949 Church Road Dover, 550 Mount Pleasant Avenue East Brunswick, 275 Route 18 Freehold, 220 Trotters Way Glassboro, 811 N Delsea Drive Jersey Ci…
Hudson County Officer In Deadly Secaucus Crash Won't Be Indicted: AG (VIDEO) Hudson County Officer In Deadly Secaucus Crash Won't Be Indicted: AG (VIDEO)
Hudson County Officer In Deadly Secaucus Crash Won't Be Indicted: AG (Video) A state grand jury declined to file criminal charges in the death of motorcyclist who was fleeing police in Secaucus in August 2023, authorities said. On Wednesday, Aug. 16, 2023, Hudson County Sheriff Officer Andrew Conti attempted to stop a motorcycle, operated by Reymis Geronimo-Segura, a 28-year-old North Bergen resident, for motor vehicle violations, State Attorney General Matthew Platkin said (click here for bodyworn camera footage of the incident). Conti observed the motorcycle in the area of Paul Amico Way and Seaview Drive, Platkin said.  Conti followed the motorcycle on Count…
Jake Paul Vs. Mike Perry Undercard Features Bergen County Boxer Tonight Jake Paul Vs. Mike Perry Undercard Features Bergen County Boxer Tonight
Jake Paul Vs. Mike Perry Undercard Features Bergen County Boxer Tonight Dane Guerrero never intended to compete. The 36-year-old boxer began learning self defense and MMA at 19 years old. He liked the fitness. The self-confidence he gained from being able to protect himself and others. But fighting for sport was never in the cards for Guerrero, he said. Until it was. On Saturday, July 20, Guerrero, who owns Combat Fitness Club in Ridgefield Park, will be fighting against Ariel Perez on the Jake Paul vs. Mike Perry undercard in Miami, FL. Guerrero's fight is the fourth in the four-round preliminary event expected to begin at 7 p.m. The main event features Pau…
Gunman Misses Victim At Point Blank Range In Attempted North Bergen Robbery, Police Say Gunman Misses Victim At Point Blank Range In Attempted North Bergen Robbery, Police Say
Gunman Misses Victim At Point Blank Range In Attempted North Bergen Robbery, Police Say A couple was shot at by an attempted robber man in North Bergen on the early morning of Tuesday, June 18, authorities said. At 2:35 a.m., officers responded to 76th Street and Bergenline and met with a couple who said they were getting off a bus when a man dressed in a track suit ran up to them from behind, put a gun to the boyfriend and demanded what he had on him, North Bergen police said. A brief struggle ensued because the boyfriend had nothing to give the robber, police said.  The robber then fired his gun, which missed the victim at point blank range, police said. There were no …
Top Fire Official Not At Fault For Bicycle Crash In North Bergen, Police Say (VIDEO) Top Fire Official Not At Fault For Bicycle Crash In North Bergen, Police Say (VIDEO)
Top Fire Official Not At Fault For Bicycle Crash In North Bergen, Police Say (Video) A bicyclist is facing several summonses after being struck by a vehicle operated by the North Hudson Regional Fire and Rescue deputy director Tuesday, June 18, Daily Voice has learned. Michael DeOrio had the green light when he was coming out of the municipal complex on the 6100 block of Tonnelle Avenue at 11:40 a.m., North Bergen Police Capt. Jorge Raposo said. NHRFR Executive Director Involved in Accident with Cyclist https://t.co/ptcPMKzwyR pic.twitter.com/Tf0Mraiu3e — HudPost (@hudpost) June 18, 2024 The bicyclist forged ahead and was struck by DeOrio, who remained at the scene. F…
North Bergen Man Busted In Murder-For-Hire Plot: Hudson Prosecutor North Bergen Man Busted In Murder-For-Hire Plot: Hudson Prosecutor
North Bergen Man Busted In Murder-For-Hire Plot: Hudson Prosecutor A North Bergen man was charged with a murder-for-hire scheme involving “a female known to” him. Miguel Cortes, 37, was arrested outside his Paterson Plank Road home on Tuesday, May 14, Hudson County Prosecutor Esther Suarez said. North Bergen police caught wind of Cortes’s alleged offer of money for the deed, the prosecutor said in announcing the arrest on Friday. Suarez didn’t characterize the person to whom Cortes allegedly offered the cash or explain his relationship to the intended target, whom she said wasn’t injured. Members of the prosecutor’s Major Case Unit charged Cortes with co…
Pakistani Couple's Popular Morris County Hot Chicken Restaurant Expands Once Again Pakistani Couple's Popular Morris County Hot Chicken Restaurant Expands Once Again
Pakistani Couple's Popular Morris County Hot Chicken Restaurant Expands Once Again Nearly four years after opening their first restaurant, Usman Chaudhry and Amena Chaudhri are expanding for the third time, with a fourth location. Namkeen Hot Chicken will soon be coming to Parsippany at 9 North Beverwyck Road in Lake Hiawatha, the North Bergen couple tells Daily Voice. The restaurant first opened in Chatham in Fall 2020, and later two more popped up in Metuchen and Brooklyn, NY. Owning his very-own restaurant was always a goal for Usman. He and his wife went for it "very spontaneously" in October 2020, despite it being a major risk during the pandemic. Usman q…
HEROES: Civilians, Police Unite To Rescue Struck Teen Pinned Beneath Car HEROES: Civilians, Police Unite To Rescue Struck Teen Pinned Beneath Car
Heroes: Civilians, Police Unite To Rescue Struck Teen Pinned Beneath Car Civilians teamed up with police to rescue a teenage girl who was struck and pinned beneath a vehicle Tuesday in North Bergen's Racetrack neighborhood, witnesses said. The victim, believed to be 15, was struck near a bus stop at the corner of Palisade Plaza and Woodcliff Avenue outside James J. Braddock Park shortly before 4:30 p.m. May 14, they said. Citizens with floor jacks assisted township police in lifting the vehicle and getting her out. An ambulance took her to the trauma center at Hackensack University Medical Center.
Hoboken Murder Suspect Hid At Mom's House In Massachusetts, Sources Say Hoboken Murder Suspect Hid At Mom's House In Massachusetts, Sources Say
Hoboken Murder Suspect Hid At Mom's House In Massachusetts, Sources Say Details in the arrest of a man wanted in the slaying of a popular athlete in Hoboken, NJ, have come to light. Albert Morales, 33, was found at his mom's house in Chicopoee, MA, on Tuesday, April 30, according to sources with direct knowledge of the arrest. Morales, of North Bergen, NJ had been wanted in the cold-blooded killing of Damon "NuNu" Murray, 21, on Sunday, April 28, as previously reported by Daily Voice. According to a Daily Voice source, Morales' vehicle was picked up by a license plate reader on Monday, April 29 along Interstate 391 in Massachusetts. Local detectives discovered…
DWI Fairview Driver Severely Injures Elderly Couple In Wrong-Way North Bergen Crash: Prosecutor DWI Fairview Driver Severely Injures Elderly Couple In Wrong-Way North Bergen Crash: Prosecutor
DWI Fairview Driver Severely Injures Elderly Couple In Wrong-Way North Bergen Crash: Prosecutor A wrong-way drunk driver from Fairview hit one sedan and slammed into another on Tonnelle Avenue in North Bergen, severely injuring a 73-year-old motorist and her 90-year-old passenger, authorities said. Steven Reyes, 45, was headed north in the southbound lanes when his Ford SUV rammed a Hyundai containing the man and woman after hitting a Volkswagen at 85th Street around 3:30 p.m. Thursday, May 2, Hudson County Prosecutor Esther Suarez said. The couple were both extricated by township firefighters and taken to Hackensack University Medical Center with what the prosecutor said were life-th…
CAUGHT: Fugitive Wanted For Gunning Down Beloved Hoboken Athlete Captured In Massachusetts CAUGHT: Fugitive Wanted For Gunning Down Beloved Hoboken Athlete Captured In Massachusetts
Caught: Fugitive Wanted For Gunning Down Beloved Hoboken Athlete Captured In Massachusetts UPDATE: A fugitive from North Bergen who authorities said shot and killed a beloved athlete from Hoboken was captured in Massachusetts on Tuesday, authorities said. Albert Morales, 33, will be extradited to New Jersey to face murder and illegal weapons charges in the cold-blooded killing of Damon "NuNu" Murray, 21, (see photo above) at a Hoboken public housing project shortly after 11:30 p.m. Sunday, April 28, Hudson County Prosecutor Esther Suarez said. Murray -- a Rutgers University football walk-on who left school to care for his family -- was brought to Jersey City Medical Center i…
Former NJ Middle School Teacher Sexually Assaulted Student: Prosecutor Former NJ Middle School Teacher Sexually Assaulted Student: Prosecutor
Former NJ Middle School Teacher Sexually Assaulted Student: Prosecutor A 32-year-old former teacher from North Bergen has been charged with sexually assaulting a student at Carteret Middle School, authorities said. Jeffrey Munguia was also charged on Wednesday, April 24 with endangering the welfare of a child, according to Middlesex County Prosecutor Yolanda Ciccone and Carterest Police Chief Dennis McFadden.  The investigation revealed that Munguia was the victim’s teacher at Carteret Middle School when the incident occurred in 2022, they said. He was arrested without incident on Wednesday. The investigation is active and continuing. An…
Kevin McGrath, Ridgefield Park Resident, Dies At 62 Kevin McGrath, Ridgefield Park Resident, Dies At 62
Kevin McGrath, Ridgefield Park Resident, Dies At 62 Kevin McGrath, a Ridgefield Park resident died on Thursday, April 11, surrounded by his family, according to his obituary. Born in The Bronx, McGrath worked for Cardella Trucking in North Bergen, his obituary reads. In his free time, McGrath enjoyed riding his Harley Davidson motorcycle and listening to the Grateful Dead and bluegrass music while making repairs around the house, according to his obituary. The greatest guy," said one mourner on his tribute wall. "Kevin was always eager to help anyone. I remember him working so many hours to provide for his family. He always had a joke t…
North Bergen Man Charged With Collecting Child Porn: Prosecutor North Bergen Man Charged With Collecting Child Porn: Prosecutor
North Bergen Man Charged With Collecting Child Porn: Prosecutor A 25-year-old North Bergen man was caught collecting pornographic images of children, authorities said. Nicholas Sanchez, 25, was taken into custody by members of the Hudson County Prosecutor’s Office Internet Crimes Against Children Task Force following an investigation, they said. He's charged with child endangerment through the possession of sex abuse material, Hudson County Prosecutor Esther Suarez said. A tip last December led task force members to an account controlled by the defendant on an online server that Suarez said contained “child sex abuse material.” She didn't say whether …
$1.525M Sale Of Grammy Winner's Waterfront NJ Home Breaks Records (PHOTOS) $1.525M Sale Of Grammy Winner's Waterfront NJ Home Breaks Records (PHOTOS)
$1.525M Sale Of Grammy Winner's Waterfront NJ Home Breaks Records (Photos) In addition to his 15 Grammy Awards, Paquito D'Rivera has yet another reason to make history books. The Cuban-American jazz legend's former North Bergen home sold for $1.525 million. That is the highest price for a single-family home ever sold in the township, according to listing agent Angela Cuciniello of Coldwell Banker Realty in Hoboken. The new homeowner is getting a home that sits on the Hudson River waterfront with views of the New York City skyline.  Angela Cuciniello Courtesy of Angela Cuciniello The buyer was from Hoboken, Angela Cuciniello of Coldwell Banker Realty…
SEE ANYTHING? Detectives Seek Leads In Pair Of Tonnelle Avenue Gas Station Holdups SEE ANYTHING? Detectives Seek Leads In Pair Of Tonnelle Avenue Gas Station Holdups
SEE Anything? Detectives Seek Leads In Pair Of Tonnelle Avenue Gas Station Holdups One Tonnelle Avenue gas station in North Bergen was robbed and another was the scene of a carjacking less than 24 hours and barely a half-mile apart, authorities said. It was shortly before 5:30 a.m. Easter Sunday when a gunman entered the Shell station on the northbound highway and pretended to be interested in a phone charger, police said. He then pulled a gun on the two middle-aged store clerks, had them get down on the floor, then took more than $2,000 in cash from the register, they said. The victims, who weren't injured, described the robber as dark-skinned, wearing a hooded jacket …
Carjackers Jump U-Haul Driver In North Bergen, Steal Truck With Cash, Van Carjackers Jump U-Haul Driver In North Bergen, Steal Truck With Cash, Van
Carjackers Jump U-Haul Driver In North Bergen, Steal Truck With Cash, Van Three carjackers assaulted a customer who'd just returned a rental truck to a U-Haul store on Tonnelle Avenue in North Bergen, making off with what police called a "significant" amount of cash. The 38-year-old victim from Newark told police he'd rented a truck to collect cargo from a location in New York City around 1:30 p.m. Sunday, March 24. He was attacked, he said, when he brought it back a few hours later. All three assailants beat him over the head and on the back of his arms, leaving him with multiple injuries, police said.The robbers fled in the truck and U-Haul van that also had b…
Parents Formerly Of Hudson Charged In 2-Year-Daughter's Tragic Death Parents Formerly Of Hudson Charged In 2-Year-Daughter's Tragic Death
Parents Formerly Of Hudson Charged In 2-Year-Daughter's Tragic Death The parents of a 2-year-old girl who died of traumatic injuries after being rushed to the hospital from what had been their North Bergen home were indicted by a grand jury in connection with the child’s death. Tracy Ruiz, 31, and Luis Larios, 35 – who both now live in the Somerset County town of Green Brook are each charged with child endangerment. Ruiz alone is charged with aggravated assault, however. Larios was arrested on Feb. 29 following the release of the grand jury indictment in Jersey Cit, Hudson County Prosecutor Esther Suarez said. Ruiz was arrested on March 7, the prosecutor s…
52 Arrested In 'Elaborate' Cockfighting Ring In South Jersey: Police 52 Arrested In 'Elaborate' Cockfighting Ring In South Jersey: Police
52 Arrested In 'Elaborate' Cockfighting Ring In South Jersey: Police More than 50 people were arrested after police broke up a large cockfighting ring in Atlantic County, authorities said. Galloway Township police executed a search warrant at a home on the 300 block of South Bremen Avenue on Saturday, Mar. 9, the department said in a news release. When officers arrived, a large group of people were there and many tried to run away before they were detained. Investigators found an "elaborate cockfighting operation" that included a fighting ring, seating for spectators, and several cockfighting kits. About 50 roosters were found in "various degrees of health" …
HEROES: North Bergen Detectives Find Missing Woman, 58, Cold, Shivering In Jersey City Park HEROES: North Bergen Detectives Find Missing Woman, 58, Cold, Shivering In Jersey City Park
Heroes: North Bergen Detectives Find Missing Woman, 58, Cold, Shivering In Jersey City Park North Bergen detectives found a township woman cold and shivering on a Jersey City park bench two days after she went missing. A solid tip generated by media attention helped make it happen, they said. Maria Martin-Vila, 58, was reportedly last seen boarding a southbound commuter van on Bergenline Avenue at 80th Street across from Braddock Park around 1 p.m. Feb. 26. "Because of the attention this story garnered, we received a credible tip that the victim was seen in the area of Bowers and Palisade Avenue in Jersey City," North Bergen Detective Capt. David Dowd said. "Detectives were also…
HEROES: North Bergen Detectives Find Missing Woman, 58, Cold, Shivering In Jersey City Park HEROES: North Bergen Detectives Find Missing Woman, 58, Cold, Shivering In Jersey City Park
Heroes: North Bergen Detectives Find Missing Woman, 58, Cold, Shivering In Jersey City Park North Bergen detectives found a township woman cold and shivering on a Jersey City park bench two days after she went missing. A solid tip generated by media attention helped make it happen, they said. Maria Martin-Vila, 58, was reportedly last seen boarding a southbound commuter van on Bergenline Avenue at 80th Street across from Braddock Park around 1 p.m. Feb. 26. "Because of the attention this story garnered, we received a credible tip that the victim was seen in the area of Bowers and Palisade Avenue in Jersey City," North Bergen Detective Capt. David Dowd said. "Detectives were…
‘KITTY FLIPPERS’: $500,000 Worth Of Dangerous Ecstasy/Ketamine Mix Seized In Hudson ‘KITTY FLIPPERS’: $500,000 Worth Of Dangerous Ecstasy/Ketamine Mix Seized In Hudson
Kitty Flippers’: $500,000 Worth Of Dangerous Ecstasy/Ketamine Mix Seized In Hudson More than five kilos of a highly dangerous – and potentially fatal – drug mixture was seized and three men arrested in North Bergen in a joint operation of local and federal authorities. A handgun and $100,000 in drug cash were recovered along with the nearly 12 pounds of Ecstasy and Ketamine, Hudson County Prosecutor Esther Suarez said. Members of Suarez’s Narcotics Task Force teamed up with U.S. Homeland Security Investigations Newark and the federal Postal Inspection Service to make the case, the prosecutor said on Monday, Feb. 26. Arrested in the area of 91st Street and Bergenwood Aven…
Cliffside Officer Nabs Passing Motorist With Loaded Gun, High-Capacity Mag: PD Cliffside Officer Nabs Passing Motorist With Loaded Gun, High-Capacity Mag: PD
Cliffside Officer Nabs Passing Motorist With Loaded Gun, High-Capacity Mag: PD When a Cliffside Park police officer asked a motorist he'd stopped for having bogus plates whether there was anything inside the car that he should be concerned about, he got a blunt answer. Namely: A loaded gun, authorities said. Melvin E. Chinchillalavandaverde, 24, "seemed nervous" when Officer Julio Perez-Tavera stopped his red 2007 Hyundai Tiburon near the corner of Riverview Place and Palisades Avenue shortly after 10:30 a.m. Tuesday, Feb. 6, Deputy Police Chief Vincent Capano said. So the officer asked a natural question, then got Chinchillalavandaverde's consent to search the c…
North Bergen Mom Daniela Drago-Kascic Dies, 56: 'I Will Never Stop Missing You' North Bergen Mom Daniela Drago-Kascic Dies, 56: 'I Will Never Stop Missing You'
North Bergen Mom Daniela Drago-Kascic Dies, 56: 'I Will Never Stop Missing You' Shock and sadness spread following the death of Daniela Drago-Kascic on Tuesday, Jan. 30. Daniela, 56, was a devoted mom to her two daughters, Christina and Julianna, cheering on Julianna at her basketball games and supporting Christina and she pursued a career in nursing, her obituary on the Vainieri Funeral Home website reads.  "The love she gave was a gift to all who knew her," one person wrote on her tribute wall. In a tribute shared to Facebook, Daniela's daughter Christina writes: "Mommy I love you so much. The best mom I ever could’ve had. I will never stop missing you." Mommy …
Philly Sister Makes Dramatic Exit, NJ Model Eliminated From 'The Bachelor' Philly Sister Makes Dramatic Exit, NJ Model Eliminated From 'The Bachelor'
Philly Sister Makes Dramatic Exit, NJ Model Eliminated From 'The Bachelor' Only two locals are left on ABC's "The Bachelor" after the second episode of the season. And that's one Philadelphia sister and the Bachelor himself: Allie Hollinger, 26, and Joey Graziadei. View this post on Instagram A post shared by The Bachelor (@bachelorabc) The older Hollinger sister, 28-year-old Lauren, decided at the end of Monday night's episode that she was tired of waiting around for her turn to talk to 28-year-old Graziadei, a tennis coach with roots in Collegeville. This comes after she and multiple other women donned brida…
'Go F— Yourself:' Philadelphia Sisters Already Fighting, NJ Model Wows On 'The Bachelor' 'Go F— Yourself:' Philadelphia Sisters Already Fighting, NJ Model Wows On 'The Bachelor'
'Go F— Yourself:' Philadelphia Sisters Already Fighting, NJ Model Wows On 'The Bachelor' Lauren and Allie's plan was to let Joey Graziadei get to know them separately. But Philadelphia's Hollinger sisters, both contestants on this season of ABC's "The Bachelor," foiled their own plan before the end of the night. And it wasn't long before things turned ugly. Lauren Hollinger, the older sister, shotguns a beer with Joey Graziadei. Disney/John Fleenor ** WARNING: Story may contain spoilers ** Lauren, 28, brought beers for her and the former Collegeville tennis player to shotgun as she stepped out of the limo, but it was ultimately her 26-year-old little sis who stole…
Don't Miss New Season Of 'The Bachelor' Featuring NJ Model Don't Miss New Season Of 'The Bachelor' Featuring NJ Model
Don't Miss New Season Of 'The Bachelor' Featuring NJ Model Joey Graziadei's season of ABC's "The Bachelor" is almost here. The new season starring the Pennsylvania tennis coach will air Monday, Jan. 22 at 8 p.m. on ABC. Among the 32 contestants who will meet 28-year-old Graziadei is 25-year-old leasing agent and model, Erika Cardenas, of North Bergen. On Monday evening, all of the women will meet Joey at the Bachelor mansion, and have only one shot to make their very first impression.  Erika is up against two sisters from Philadelphia, a radiochemist, a guidance counselor, and more than two dozen hopefuls from across the U.S. Click her…
10-Year Minimum Awaits Repeat Child Porn Collector Caught With 1,300 Files At Newark Airport 10-Year Minimum Awaits Repeat Child Porn Collector Caught With 1,300 Files At Newark Airport
10-Year Minimum Awaits Repeat Child Porn Collector Caught With 1,300 Files At Newark Airport A convicted child porn collector from North Jersey who'd moved to Ecuador after serving his time here is headed to federal prison for at least 10 more years. Christopher Carvajal, 30, most recently of North Bergen, had 900 videos and more than 400 images of child sex -- some of it involving infants or toddlers -- on his iPhone when Homeland Security Investigations seized him at Newark Airport last year. It also contained messages in which Carvajal "discussed his desire for sexual encounters with young children," U.S. Attorney Philip R. Sellinger said. Rather than risk a much more lengthy…