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Missing Mom Case: Ex-Girlfriend Of Estranged Husband Convicted Of Murder Conspiracy Missing Mom Case: Ex-Girlfriend Of Estranged Husband Convicted Of Murder Conspiracy
Missing Mom Case: Ex-Girlfriend Of Estranged Husband Convicted Of Murder Conspiracy After three days of deliberations, a jury found the ex-girlfriend of the estranged husband of Connecticut mother of five Jennifer Farber Dulos guilty in connection with her disappearance nearly five years ago in a case in which Dulos, who has never been found, has been declared legally dead. Related: Missing New Canaan Mom Of 5 Jennifer Dulos Declared Dead By Judge Michelle Troconis, age 49, was found guilty in Stamford on Friday, March 1, of all counts including conspiracy to commit murder, hindering prosecution, and evidence tampering.  She is being held on a $6 million bond,…
New Update: How Much Snow Did You Get? Storm Reports From Northern Westchester, Region New Update: How Much Snow Did You Get? Storm Reports From Northern Westchester, Region
New Update: How Much Snow Did You Get? Storm Reports From Northern Westchester, Region Here are snowfall reports from the region for the winter storm that is sweeping through the Northeast on Tuesday, Feb. 13. Totals are from the National Weather Service and submissions from Daily Voice readers: Location        Amount        Time/Date      Provider New York Westchester County Peekskill 10.3 inches 1000 AM 02/13 Public Croton-on-Hudso 10.5 inches 12:45 PM 02/13 Daily Voice reader submission North Salem/Peach Lake 10.0 inches 0430 PM 02/13 Daily Voice reader submission Croton-on-Hudson …
Support Floods In For Children Of Beloved Westchester Attorneys Killed In Thanksgiving Crash Support Floods In For Children Of Beloved Westchester Attorneys Killed In Thanksgiving Crash
Support Floods In For Children Of Beloved Westchester Attorneys Killed In Thanksgiving Crash Weeks after a tragic Thanksgiving crash in Connecticut that killed two beloved attorneys from Westchester, their community is coming together to ensure that the couple's children will be taken care of.  Scarsdale residents Toby Cohen, age 41, and Brooke Peltz Cohen, age 37, were both killed in a crash in Hartford County on Thursday, Nov. 23 just after 7:15 p.m. near the Bristol/Farmington town line on Stevens Street in Bristol.  Earlier Report - New Update: Scarsdale Parents Of 3 Killed In Thanksgiving Crash Were Beloved Attorneys According to Bristol Police, …
New Update: Westchester Parents Of 3 Killed In Thanksgiving Crash Were Beloved Attorneys New Update: Westchester Parents Of 3 Killed In Thanksgiving Crash Were Beloved Attorneys
New Update: Westchester Parents Of 3 Killed In Thanksgiving Crash Were Beloved Attorneys The young parents from New York who were killed in a horrific crash while visiting family in Connecticut on Thanksgiving Day both worked as attorneys. The single-vehicle crash happened in Hartford County just after 7:15 p.m. Thursday, Nov. 23 near the Bristol/Farmington town line on Stevens Street in Bristol. The initial investigation showed that a westbound vehicle was traveling on Morea Road in Farmington, had crossed into Bristol on Stevens Street, east of Cherry Hill Drive, and had left the roadway to the right, striking a roadway sign and vegetation/trees. Bristol Police sai…
Police ID 3 Children, Mother Found Dead In Apparent Triple-Murder Suicide In Fairfield County Police ID 3 Children, Mother Found Dead In Apparent Triple-Murder Suicide In Fairfield County
Police ID 3 Children, Mother Found Dead In Apparent Triple-Murder Suicide In Fairfield County Click here for an updated story: Fairfield County Mom Accused Of Killing 3 Kids Had Been Cited For Providing Illegal Day Care Police have released new details and the identities of three children who were allegedly strangled to death by their mother in their Fairfield County home. The incident took place in Danbury on Wednesday, July 27 on Whaley St. The children, Junior Panjon, age 12, Joselyn Panjon, age 10, and Jonael Panjon, age 5, were found by police after the department received a request for a welfare check from a distraught and crying person, said Det. Capt. Mark Williams. Accord…
Fairfield County Resident ID'd As One Of Four Victims Of Fatal CT Plane Crash Fairfield County Resident ID'd As One Of Four Victims Of Fatal CT Plane Crash
Fairfield County Resident ID'd As One Of Four Victims Of Fatal CT Plane Crash Two pilots from Connecticut were killed in a plane crash into a commercial building along with a couple from Boston. The Cessna citation 560X business jet crashed around 9:50 a.m., Thursday, Sept. 2, in Hartford County at Trumpf Inc., a manufacturer in Farmington. The jet had just taken off from the Robertson Airport in Plainville, headed for Dare County Regional Airport in North Carolina, said the Federal Aviation Administration, said Lieutenant Tim McKenzie, of the Farmington Police. See Earlier Story: Four Confirmed Dead After Plane Crashes Into Building In Farmington The two…
Four Confirmed Dead After Plane Crashes Into Building In CT Four Confirmed Dead After Plane Crashes Into Building In CT
Four Confirmed Dead After Plane Crashes Into Building In CT Police have confirmed that all four people aboard a small jet that crashed into a commercial building in Connecticut have died. The Cessna citation 560X business jet crashed around 9:50 a.m., Thursday, Sept. 2, in Hartford County at Trumpf Inc., a manufacturer in Farmington. The jet had just taken off from the Robertson Airport in Plainville, headed for Dare County Regional Airport in North Carolina, said the Federal Aviation Administration. Farmington Police confirmed that all four, two pilots, and two passengers died during the crash. Police said during a press conference the first offi…
Girl Who Died In Fairfield County Murder-Suicide Had 'Sweetness That Captivated People' Girl Who Died In Fairfield County Murder-Suicide Had 'Sweetness That Captivated People'
Girl Who Died In Fairfield County Murder-Suicide Had 'Sweetness That Captivated People' Layla Kim Ngân Malon was described as a little girl who brought smiles and happiness to all around her, according to her obituary. The 7-year-old died on Thursday, June 17, when she was drowned by her mother in Westport, who later killed herself, according to the Westport Police. Born in Danbury, she was the beloved daughter of Eric Malon of Westport and the late Tracy Do. Layla was a student at Coleytown Elementary school. "Layla possessed a sweetness that truly captivated people," said her obituary. She loved and admired her big sissy Alexis, and was her daddy's little girl, it went on …
New Details, IDs: Fairfield County Mother Drowned Daughter, Then Killed Herself, Police Say New Details, IDs: Fairfield County Mother Drowned Daughter, Then Killed Herself, Police Say
New Details, IDs: Fairfield County Mother Drowned Daughter, Then Killed Herself, Police Say Police have released the identity of a woman who was found dead inside a Fairfield County home along with her 7-year-old daughter. Forty-six-year-old Tracy Do, of Westport, was found dead around 4 p.m. on Thursday, June 17, at 1 Lyndale Park, after police responded to the home for a report of an unresponsive female, said Westport PD Lieutenant David Wolf. The deceased juvenile also resided at the above address and is Do’s daughter. Mother, 7-Year-Old Daughter Found Dead Inside Fairfield County Home When police entered the home, officers found Do. The officers went…
Westchester Man Charged With Illegal Use Of Credit Card, Larceny, Forgery Westchester Man Charged With Illegal Use Of Credit Card, Larceny, Forgery
Westchester Man Charged With Illegal Use Of Credit Card, Larceny, Forgery A wanted man from Westchester who illegally used a credit card at a Fairfield County store was taken into police custody more than four years later during a routine traffic stop. On Tuesday, Aug. 18, the Darien Police Department received a report from officers in Farmington who took Westchester resident Phillip Thompson into custody on the arrest warrant when he was stopped during a traffic stop. Thompson, 25, was arrested and charged with illegal use of a credit card, larceny, and forgery. He’s being held on a $1,500 bond and is scheduled to appear in court on Wednesday, Aug. 19. On March…
Fotis Dulos Attorney Says At Court Hearing He Knows Who Killed Missing Mom Fotis Dulos Attorney Says At Court Hearing He Knows Who Killed Missing Mom
Fotis Dulos Attorney Says At Court Hearing He Knows Who Killed Missing Mom In a hearing that was full of a few bombshells, a Superior Court judge dropped all charges against the late Fotis Dulos, the late husband of missing Fairfield County mom Jennifer Farber Dulos. During the hearing, Tuesday, March 3, in Stamford, Dulos attorney Norm Pattis told the judge bags of bloody woman's clothing and other items were left on the back porch of his client's Farmington home the same day police believe his estranged wife was killed in New Canaan. Pattis said that panicked Dulos and his former girlfriend, Michelle Troconis, then drove to Hartford and dumped the bags in trash…
Missing Mom Case: Michelle Troconis' New Attorney Claims Bail Conditions Humiliating, Too Harsh Missing Mom Case: Michelle Troconis' New Attorney Claims Bail Conditions Humiliating, Too Harsh
Missing Mom Case: Michelle Troconis' New Attorney Claims Bail Conditions Humiliating, Too Harsh A new attorney hired to represent Michelle Troconis, the former lover of Fotis Dulos, who is charged in the death of his missing Fairfield County wife, Jennifer Farber Dulos, didn't take long to file new motions on her behalf. Hartford-based Jon Schoenhorn was hired on Wednesday, Feb. 5, and immediately filed a motion to have the case moved to the Hartford Judicial District. In the motion, Schoenhorn argues the crimes Troconis is accused of committing took place in the Hartford area, not in Fairfield County. “Although the state alleges this crime occurred in the town of New Canaan, the se…
Accused Missing Mom Killer Fotis Dulos Maintains Innocence In Suicide Note Accused Missing Mom Killer Fotis Dulos Maintains Innocence In Suicide Note
Accused Missing Mom Killer Fotis Dulos Maintains Innocence In Suicide Note Fotis Dulos, the estranged husband and accused killer of missing Fairfield County mother of five Jennifer Farber Dulos, said “I refuse to spend even an hour more in jail for something I had NOTHING to do with," in a hand-written suicide note. The note was found inside a Chevrolet Suburban parked at his Farmington, Connecticut mansion where a vacuum cleaner hose had reportedly been attached to the tailpipe and run into the vehicle by carbon monoxide on Tuesday, Jan. 28, the day he was scheduled to attend an emergency bond hearing in Stamford. “Enough is enough,” the 52-year-old Dulos said i…
Missing Mom Estranged Husband Fotis Dulos 'Executed' By Court Of Public Opinion, Lawyer Says Missing Mom Estranged Husband Fotis Dulos 'Executed' By Court Of Public Opinion, Lawyer Says
Missing Mom Estranged Husband Fotis Dulos 'Executed' By Court Of Public Opinion, Lawyer Says In the minutes after announcing the death of Fotis Dulos, the estranged husband accused of murdering New Canaan mom Jennifer Farber Dulos, attorney Norm Pattis said his client was "executed." “Mr. Dulos was tried and convicted in the court of public opinion," Pattis said. "Now he has been executed. We remain committed to demonstrating he did not murder Jennifer.” Dulos, 52, who was declared dead at 5:32 p.m., Thursday, Jan. 30, attempted to end his life on Tuesday, Jan. 28, by attaching a vacuum cleaner hose to the tailpipe of his vehicle and running it through a window, started the engine…
Fotis Dulos, Suspect In Murder Of Missing Mother Of Five, Declared Dead Fotis Dulos, Suspect In Murder Of Missing Mother Of Five, Declared Dead
Fotis Dulos, Suspect In Murder Of Missing Mother Of Five, Declared Dead Fotis Dulos, the man accused of killing his estranged wife, missing Fairfield County mother of five Jennifer Farber Dulos, has been declared dead, according to his attorney. Dulos, 52, was pronounced dead at 5:32 p.m. Thursday, Jan. 30 his lawyer, Norm Pattis, told members of the news media outside Jacobi Medical Center in the Bronx. Dulos was rushed to the hospital after Dulos was found inside a Chevrolet Suburban at his Farmington, Connecticut mansion where a vacuum cleaner hose had reportedly been attached to the tailpipe and run into the vehicle by carbon monoxide on Tues…
Condition Of Accused Killer Of Missing Mom 'Dire' As Court Orders Rearrest If He Survives Condition Of Accused Killer Of Missing Mom 'Dire' As Court Orders Rearrest If He Survives
Condition Of Accused Killer Of Missing Mom 'Dire' As Court Orders Rearrest If He Survives Three new arrest warrants were issued for Fotis Dulos, the estranged husband of Fairfield County missing mother of five Jennifer Farber Dulos, at an emergency bond hearing, as his attorneys described his condition as "dire." “His medical condition is dire,” Norm Pattis, Dulos' attorney told Judge Gary White on Wednesday, Jan. 29 during the hearing in Stamford.  Pattis also said Dulos' family was expected to arrive later Wednesday from his native Greece and waived extradition proceedings so the family could visit him at the Jacobi Medical Center in the Bronx. See Previous Story: Emergency…
Emergency Bond Hearing Will Be Held After Missing Mom Estranged Husband's Suicide Attempt Emergency Bond Hearing Will Be Held After Missing Mom Estranged Husband's Suicide Attempt
Emergency Bond Hearing Will Be Held After Missing Mom Estranged Husband's Suicide Attempt An emergency bond hearing will be held in Stamford Superior Court without Fotis Dulos, who remains in critical condition following an apparent suicide attempt. Dulos, who is charged with killing his estranged wife Jennifer Farber Dulos of New Canaan, was rushed to the hospital Tuesday, Jan. 28, after authorities say he attempted to kill himself with carbon monoxide poisoning. The father of five was found at his Farmington, Connecticut, mansion during a welfare check by Farmington Police after he failed to show up in court for the originally scheduled emergency bond hearing. He was found u…
Estranged Husband In Missing Mom Case Clinging To Life After Suicide Attempt Estranged Husband In Missing Mom Case Clinging To Life After Suicide Attempt
Estranged Husband In Missing Mom Case Clinging To Life After Suicide Attempt Fotis Dulos, the estranged husband of missing Fairfield County mother of five Jennifer Farber Dulos, is clinging to life and being treated for carbon monoxide poisoning hours after an apparent suicide attempt, police say. Dulos was found at his Farmington, Connecticut, mansion around noon, Tuesday, Jan. 28, after he failed to show up in court for an emergency bond hearing, said Farmington Police spokesman Lt. Tim McKenzie at a press conference. Officers responding to the wellness check found Dulos, who is charged with the murder of his missing New Canaan wife, inside the garage in a vehicl…
Update: Estranged Husband In Missing Mom Case Rushed To Hospital After Being Found Unresponsive Update: Estranged Husband In Missing Mom Case Rushed To Hospital After Being Found Unresponsive
Update: Estranged Husband In Missing Mom Case Rushed To Hospital After Being Found Unresponsive Click here for an updated story: Estranged Husband In Missing Mom Case Alive Following Suicide Attempt, Police Say Fotis Dulos, the estranged husband of missing Fairfield County mother of five Jennifer Farber Dulos, is said to have a weak pulse after being found unresponsive at his Farmington, Connecticut home, according to multiple sources. New Canaan Police said that Dulos was found unresponsive at his Farmington home on Tuesday, Jan. 28. Reports from different sources said Dulos had committed suicide and was originally reported to be dead. However, his attorney, Norm Pattis releas…
Estranged Husband In Missing Mom Case Rushed To Hospital After Being Found Unresponsive Estranged Husband In Missing Mom Case Rushed To Hospital After Being Found Unresponsive
Estranged Husband In Missing Mom Case Rushed To Hospital After Being Found Unresponsive Click here for an updated story: Estranged Husband In Missing Mom Case Alive Following Suicide Attempt, Police Say Fotis Dulos, the estranged husband of missing Fairfield County mother of five Jennifer Farber Dulos, has been rushed to the hospital after being found unresponsive at his Farmington, Connecticut home, authorities said. New Canaan Police said that Dulos was found unresponsive at his Farmington home on Tuesday, Jan. 28. Eyewitness News 3 is reported that police and paramedics could be seen on the property of his Jefferson Crossing home and that Dulos is dead, according to polic…
Judge Revokes Estranged Husband's Ability To Work After Stopping At Memorial For Missing Mom Judge Revokes Estranged Husband's Ability To Work After Stopping At Memorial For Missing Mom
Judge Revokes Estranged Husband's Ability To Work After Stopping At Memorial For Missing Mom A judge took away the ability for Fotis Dulos to work after he made a stop at a memorial for his missing Fairfield County wife and mother of five children, Jennifer Farber Dulos, and removed items in violation of his bail terms. The ruling was made during a hearing on Thursday, Jan. 23, when Dulos appear before Judge Gary White in Stamford who revoked the work condition after he was seen on Friday, Jan. 17, removing items from the memorial for Jennifer Farber Dulos, who he is charged with killing.  Jennifer Farber DulosThe Family of Jennifer Farber Dulos Stamford State Attorney Richard …
Missing Mom Case: Estranged Husband, Ex-Girlfriend Released From Custody After Posting Bond Missing Mom Case: Estranged Husband, Ex-Girlfriend Released From Custody After Posting Bond
Missing Mom Case: Estranged Husband, Ex-Girlfriend Released From Custody After Posting Bond Wearing a blue shirt and sports coat, Fotis Dulos the estranged husband of missing Fairfield County mother of five Jennifer Farber Dulos walked out of a Stamford courthouse after posting a $6 million bond. Dulos, 52, put up more than $400,000 in cash on Thursday, Jan. 9, to win his freedom after his arrest on charges of murder, felony murder, and kidnapping, in connection with the disappearance of New Canaan's Jennifer Dulos, officials said. The fee to obtain a bond in excess of $5,000 is seven percent of the amount plus $150 under Connecticut law. Before leaving the courthouse just before…
Missing Mom Case: Estranged Husband Borrowed Ax Month Before Jennifer Dulos' Disappearance Missing Mom Case: Estranged Husband Borrowed Ax Month Before Jennifer Dulos' Disappearance
Missing Mom Case: Estranged Husband Borrowed Ax Month Before Jennifer Dulos' Disappearance When state police went to the Farmington, Connecticut home of Fotis Dulos to arrest him for the murder of his estranged Fairfield County wife Jennifer Farber Dulos, they left with Dulos and an ax, according to multiple sources. A friend had reportedly loaned Dulos the ax about a month before Jennifer Dulos, went missing on Friday, May 24, in New Canaan, sources told the Hartford Courant. Jennifer Farber DulosNew Canaan Police Department According to sources, following Dulos' arrest on Tuesday, Jan. 7, detectives confiscated the ax from the garage of his expansive home. The ax will be se…
Estranged Husband, Ex-Girlfriend Charged With Murder In Missing Mom Case Estranged Husband, Ex-Girlfriend Charged With Murder In Missing Mom Case
Estranged Husband, Ex-Girlfriend Charged With Murder In Missing Mom Case Fotis Dulos, the estranged husband of missing Fairfield County mother of five Jennifer Farber Dulos has arrested by state police and will be charged with her murder. Dulos' ex-girlfriend, Michelle Troconis, and an attorney who had represented Dulos, Kent Mahwinney, have both reportedly been charged with conspiracy to commit murder. According to New Canaan Police, Fotis Dulos was picked up at his Farmington home by state police on Tuesday morning, Jan. 7. He is being currently being held at Troop G in Bridgeport where he was charged with murder and conspiracy to commit murder, according to…
Estranged Husband In Missing Mom Case Faces Foreclosure On New Canaan Home Estranged Husband In Missing Mom Case Faces Foreclosure On New Canaan Home
Estranged Husband In Missing Mom Case Faces Foreclosure On New Canaan Home Fotis Dulos, the estranged husband of missing Fairfield County mother of five Jennifer Farber Dulos is facing additional legal problems as a bank moves to foreclose on one of his properties. Dulos, who is out on bail after being charged evidence tampering and hindering prosecution in connection with his wife's May 24 disappearance,  may soon lose his New Canaan property after Danbury Savings Bank filed court papers on Monday, Dec. 9, to foreclose on property at 61 Sturbridge Hill Road. A 7,000-square-foot home sits on the property and is one of the sites police searched after neighbors rep…
Missing Mom Case: Gag Order Issued, Family Believes She Is Dead, Husband Pleads Not Guilty Missing Mom Case: Gag Order Issued, Family Believes She Is Dead, Husband Pleads Not Guilty
Missing Mom Case: Gag Order Issued, Family Believes She Is Dead, Husband Pleads Not Guilty The estranged husband of Fairfield County missing mom Jennifer Farber Dulos pleaded not guilty to a second charge of tampering with evidence. During the hearing in Stamford Superior Court on Thursday, Sept. 12,  the judge also issued a gag order in the case saying comments by attorneys and other parties could affect the outcome of a trial.  Shortly after, the New Canaan Police Department issued a statement regarding the order which takes effect on Thursday, stating: "No information will be provided from this date forward regarding this case until the order is lifted or additional arrests a…
Estranged Husband Now Says He Believes Missing Mom Is Still Alive Estranged Husband Now Says He Believes Missing Mom Is Still Alive
Estranged Husband Now Says He Believes Missing Mom Is Still Alive The estranged husband of missing Fairfield County woman Jennifer Farber Dulos said he believes that the mother of his five children is still alive. In an interview on NBC's "Dateline," slated to air Monday, Sept. 9 at 10 p.m., Fotis Dulos told reporter Dennis Murphy that "I do," "Yes," believe Jennifer Dulos is alive and will show up on someone's doorstep one day. Asked if he killed his wife, Fotis Dulos said "I did not," and went on to say that based on advice from his attorney, he would "leave it at that." Filmed before his second arrest on evidence tampering charges on Wednesday, Sept.…
Missing Mom's Body Was In Truck Used By Estranged Husband, Warrant In New Arrest Says Missing Mom's Body Was In Truck Used By Estranged Husband, Warrant In New Arrest Says
Missing Mom's Body Was In Truck Used By Estranged Husband, Warrant In New Arrest Says As Fotis Dulos, the estranged husband of missing Fairfield County mom Jennifer Farber Dulos posted another $500,000 bail following his second arrest for evidence tampering in connection with the case, with the 39-page arrest warrant reads like a page-turning murder mystery novel.  Connecticut State Police arrested Dulos around 2:30 p.m., Wednesday, Sept. 4, at his home in of Farmington, Connecticut. Jennifer Dulos, 50, of New Canaan, has not been seen since dropping off her five children at school on Friday, May 24. Her black Chevy Suburban was found abandoned on the side of Lapham Road ne…
New DNA Blood Evidence In Missing Mom Case Leads To Husband's Second Arrest, Police Say New DNA Blood Evidence In Missing Mom Case Leads To Husband's Second Arrest, Police Say
New DNA Blood Evidence In Missing Mom Case Leads To Husband's Second Arrest, Police Say This story has been updated. As Fotis Dulos, the estranged husband of missing Fairfield County mom Jennifer Farber Dulos posted another $500,000 bail following his second arrest for evidence tampering in connection with the case, with the arrest warrant reads like a page-turning murder mystery novel.  Connecticut State Police arrested Dulos around 2:30 p.m., Wednesday, Sept. 4, at his home in of Farmington, Connecticut. Jennifer Dulos, 50, of New Canaan, has not been seen since dropping off her five children at school on Friday, May 24. Her black Chevy Suburban was found abandoned on the …
Estranged Husband's Lawyer Calls Report Of Mom's Blood-Stained Shirt 'Desperate Speculation' Estranged Husband's Lawyer Calls Report Of Mom's Blood-Stained Shirt 'Desperate Speculation'
Estranged Husband's Lawyer Calls Report Of Mom's Blood-Stained Shirt 'Desperate Speculation' The lawyer for the estranged husband of the missing Fairfield County mother of five says reports that police found the blood-stained shirt worn by Jennifer Farber Dulos the day she disappeared is "desperate speculation." Norm Pattis, Fotis Dulos' attorney, said he wasn't aware of any evidence that pointed to what Jennifer Dulos was wearing when the New Canaan resident went missing on Friday, May 24. “I am unaware of any evidence about what she was wearing when she disappeared," Pattis said. "This sounds like desperate speculation." Norm PattisElite Lawyer Management The news that polic…
Blood-Stained Shirt Police Believe Missing Mom Wore Day Of Disappearance Found, Report Says Blood-Stained Shirt Police Believe Missing Mom Wore Day Of Disappearance Found, Report Says
Blood-Stained Shirt Police Believe Missing Mom Wore Day Of Disappearance Found, Report Says This story has been updated. A new report citing law enforcement sources says that police investigating the disappearance of the Fairfield County mother of five found a blood-stained Vineyard Vines T-shirt that she was believed to be wearing on the day she vanished. According to a report in the Hartford Courant, police found the shirt, along with a bra, two mops and some sponges with blood on them in a garbage can on Albany Avenue in Hartford. Police arrested New Canaan resident Jennifer Farber Dulos' estranged husband, Fotis Dulos, along with his girlfriend, Michelle Troconis, after vide…